tMcCann wrote:
bAndersen wrote:
Please succinctly tell me what the damage is? If it is loss of prestige for those that have achieved level V I believe that it has been established that the original SAP will not be altered, and if correctly written by-law changes will protect the original SAP from change.
Hey Barry, good to hear from you. Under Jim Deck’s proposal there will be NO DISTINCTION between eSAP V and SAP V (or I II III IV) That has been the issue for years and it seems to be chiseled in stone.
Hi Tim,
I'm glad to hear from you as well. I'm sure you know I hold you in high regard for your many contributions to soaring. I have many "Super Skegs" and my McCann winch and the club's winches work great.
As I understand it, Jim Deck's proposal ( I assume that you mean the current proposal listed) is a work in progress. Hence, this forum to address concerns such as the one you mention. I believe that I addressed the necessity of having a distinction between the sSAP and the SAP. If it can be made more clearly, I imagine that any way to distinguish would be widely supported. I hope and believe that the final proposal will reflect a way to distinguish the two paths. I agree that there should be clear differentiation. I also feel that LSF can readily accommodate both paths to soaring excellence.
It seems to me that those in the soaring community know who has achieved level V. There is quiet respect paid to those members. I don't really recall many, if any, displays of level V next to decals or other ways. There are few of them around, people know who they are. I don't think an eSAP will be an easy journey to work up to level V. Even if it is somehow perceived as easier, the accomplishments of people in the current SAP won't be diminished, at least in my mind.
I hope in the end we can all reach an understanding that is agreeable to all involved. Frankly, there are so few of us in the soaring community that a rift between us would serve none of us well. I'm glad you're back and contributing to the discussion.
With respect
Barry